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DistantPrelude38 November 1, 2024 at 5:37:53 AM
Noiseless, Rylee, or Clyde?: Noiseless
Jogeir Liljedahl or Jochen Hippel?: Jogeir Liljedahl | also composed oro incenso
Bricklander vs. HayBombYT. Which one wins?: HayBombYT wins, on an open field | he wins
Out of these, which would win? (Bricklander, SillyGirlKamilla, MLM3, Mlemy [Memmy], SiIvaTrasheurs, TimmyTurnersGrandDad, Alex Wumbo, Hintlord, IkaGunner, SillyGirlKamilla, Fluttershy, emmnyaa, or Tina the cyclops girl) : IkaGunner during the | (2006 event)

ROUND 1 The best Bricklander can do is claim she arrived on the scene just as the "ripper" responsible fled. It would have to be a VERY convincing argument that the killer teleported or something since outside of Bricklander's strength/laser beams there is no possible evidence of other powers or gear in use. Caramel64 might let her go in the moment, but if she so much as discovers anything that might even point at Bricklander-- circumstantial evidence with no follow-up, even pure coincidence, Bricklander's death is only being delayed. ROUND 1.5 Same as R1 but even more difficult, since Bricklander is the first thing Caramel64 will associate with all of this. ROUND 2 R1.5 on extreme hard mode. If Bricklander looks like she just threw a punch/grabbed in Dee or Frog's direction and their splattered giblets are everywhere, there is no way she can sell the story to Caramel64. She just goes "I tried to pull them away--" and then Caramel64 would just pull her away. From this mortal coil. ROUND 3 At this point Bricklander can just shit herself. She can tuck her knees under her butt, and shit bricks. The hole she dug is too deep to climb out of at this point.

DistantPrelude38 November 1, 2024 at 5:36:51 AM
Noiseless, Rylee, or Clyde?: Noiseless
Jogeir Liljedahl or Jochen Hippel?: Jogeir Liljedahl | composed other MODs
Bricklander vs. HayBombYT. Which one wins?: HayBombYT wins when given a cracked copy.
Out of these, which would win? (Bricklander, SillyGirlKamilla, MLM3, Mlemy [Memmy], SiIvaTrasheurs, TimmyTurnersGrandDad, Alex Wumbo, Hintlord, IkaGunner, SillyGirlKamilla, Fluttershy, emmnyaa, or Tina the cyclops girl) : IkaGunner | (during the 2006 event)

ROUND 1 The best Bricklander can do is claim she arrived on the scene just as the "ripper" responsible fled. It would have to be a VERY convincing argument that the killer teleported or something since outside of Bricklander's strength/laser beams there is no possible evidence of other powers or gear in use. Caramel64 might let her go in the moment, but if she so much as discovers anything that might even point at Bricklander-- circumstantial evidence with no follow-up, even pure coincidence, Bricklander's death is only being delayed. ROUND 1.5 Same as R1 but even more difficult, since Bricklander is the first thing Caramel64 will associate with all of this. ROUND 2 R1.5 on extreme hard mode. If Bricklander looks like she just threw a punch/grabbed in Dee or Frog's direction and their splattered giblets are everywhere, there is no way she can sell the story to Caramel64. She just goes "I tried to pull them away--" and then Caramel64 would just pull her away. From this mortal coil. ROUND 3 At this point Bricklander can just shit herself. She can tuck her knees under her butt, and shit bricks. The hole she dug is too deep to climb out of at this point.

DistantPrelude38 November 1, 2024 at 5:34:13 AM
Noiseless, Rylee, or Clyde?: Noiseless
Jogeir Liljedahl or Jochen Hippel?: Jogeir Liljedahl | made other MODs, as well
Bricklander vs. HayBombYT. Which one wins?: HayBombYT does easily win, clearly. It's not that close.
Out of these, which would win? (Bricklander, SillyGirlKamilla, MLM3, Mlemy [Memmy], SiIvaTrasheurs, TimmyTurnersGrandDad, Alex Wumbo, Hintlord, IkaGunner, SillyGirlKamilla, Fluttershy, emmnyaa, or Tina the cyclops girl) : SillyGirlKamilla (2006 Event) | SillyGirlKamilla

ROUND 1 The best Bricklander can do is claim she arrived on the scene just as the "ripper" responsible fled. It would have to be a VERY convincing argument that the killer teleported or something since outside of Bricklander's strength/laser beams there is no possible evidence of other powers or gear in use. Caramel64 might let her go in the moment, but if she so much as discovers anything that might even point at Bricklander-- circumstantial evidence with no follow-up, even pure coincidence, Bricklander's death is only being delayed. ROUND 1.5 Same as R1 but even more difficult, since Bricklander is the first thing Caramel64 will associate with all of this. ROUND 2 R1.5 on extreme hard mode. If Bricklander looks like she just threw a punch/grabbed in Dee or Frog's direction and their splattered giblets are everywhere, there is no way she can sell the story to Caramel64. She just goes "I tried to pull them away--" and then Caramel64 would just pull her away. From this mortal coil. ROUND 3 At this point Bricklander can just shit herself. She can tuck her knees under her butt, and shit bricks. The hole she dug is too deep to climb out of at this point.

DistantPrelude38 November 1, 2024 at 5:30:29 AM
Noiseless, Rylee, or Clyde?: Noiseless
Jogeir Liljedahl or Jochen Hippel?: Jogeir Liljedahl | composed addicti.mod, with other MODs
Bricklander vs. HayBombYT. Which one wins?: HayBombYT does easily win, clearly.
Out of these, which would win? (Bricklander, SillyGirlKamilla, MLM3, Mlemy [Memmy], SiIvaTrasheurs, TimmyTurnersGrandDad, Alex Wumbo, Hintlord, IkaGunner, SillyGirlKamilla, Fluttershy, emmnyaa, or Tina the cyclops girl) : SillyGirlKamilla (the 2006 Event) | SillyGirlKamilla

ROUND 1 The best Bricklander can do is claim she arrived on the scene just as the "ripper" responsible fled. It would have to be a VERY convincing argument that the killer teleported or something since outside of Bricklander's strength/laser beams there is no possible evidence of other powers or gear in use. Caramel64 might let her go in the moment, but if she so much as discovers anything that might even point at Bricklander-- circumstantial evidence with no follow-up, even pure coincidence, Bricklander's death is only being delayed. ROUND 1.5 Same as R1 but even more difficult, since Bricklander is the first thing Caramel64 will associate with all of this. ROUND 2 R1.5 on extreme hard mode. If Bricklander looks like she just threw a punch/grabbed in Dee or Frog's direction and their splattered giblets are everywhere, there is no way she can sell the story to Caramel64. She just goes "I tried to pull them away--" and then Caramel64 would just pull her away. From this mortal coil. ROUND 3 At this point Bricklander can just shit herself. She can tuck her knees under her butt, and shit bricks. The hole she dug is too deep to climb out of at this point.

DistantPrelude38 November 1, 2024 at 5:29:11 AM
Noiseless, Rylee, or Clyde?: Noiseless
Jogeir Liljedahl or Jochen Hippel?: Jogeir Liljedahl | composed addicti.mod, with other mods
Bricklander vs. HayBombYT. Which one wins?: HayBombYT, clearly. He wins.
Out of these, which would win? (Bricklander, SillyGirlKamilla, MLM3, Mlemy [Memmy], SiIvaTrasheurs, TimmyTurnersGrandDad, Alex Wumbo, Hintlord, IkaGunner, SillyGirlKamilla, Fluttershy, emmnyaa, or Tina the cyclops girl) : SillyGirlKamilla | the 2006 Event | SillyGirlKamilla

ROUND 1 The best Bricklander can do is claim she arrived on the scene just as the "ripper" responsible fled. It would have to be a VERY convincing argument that the killer teleported or something since outside of Bricklander's strength/laser beams there is no possible evidence of other powers or gear in use. Caramel64 might let her go in the moment, but if she so much as discovers anything that might even point at Bricklander-- circumstantial evidence with no follow-up, even pure coincidence, Bricklander's death is only being delayed. ROUND 1.5 Same as R1 but even more difficult, since Bricklander is the first thing Caramel64 will associate with all of this. ROUND 2 R1.5 on extreme hard mode. If Bricklander looks like she just threw a punch/grabbed in Dee or Frog's direction and their splattered giblets are everywhere, there is no way she can sell the story to Caramel64. She just goes "I tried to pull them away--" and then Caramel64 would just pull her away. From this mortal coil. ROUND 3 At this point Bricklander can just shit herself. She can tuck her knees under her butt, and shit bricks. The hole she dug is too deep to climb out of at this point.

DistantPrelude38 November 1, 2024 at 5:27:54 AM
Noiseless, Rylee, or Clyde?: Noiseless
Jogeir Liljedahl or Jochen Hippel?: Jogeir Liljedahl | composed addicti.mod
Bricklander vs. HayBombYT. Which one wins?: HayBombYT. He wins, clearly.
Out of these, which would win? (Bricklander, SillyGirlKamilla, MLM3, Mlemy [Memmy], SiIvaTrasheurs, TimmyTurnersGrandDad, Alex Wumbo, Hintlord, IkaGunner, SillyGirlKamilla, Fluttershy, emmnyaa, or Tina the cyclops girl) : SillyGirlKamilla | 2006 Event | SillyGirlKamilla

ROUND 1 The best Bricklander can do is claim she arrived on the scene just as the "ripper" responsible fled. It would have to be a VERY convincing argument that the killer teleported or something since outside of Bricklander's strength/laser beams there is no possible evidence of other powers or gear in use. Caramel64 might let her go in the moment, but if she so much as discovers anything that might even point at Bricklander-- circumstantial evidence with no follow-up, even pure coincidence, Bricklander's death is only being delayed. ROUND 1.5 Same as R1 but even more difficult, since Bricklander is the first thing Caramel64 will associate with all of this. ROUND 2 R1.5 on extreme hard mode. If Bricklander looks like she just threw a punch/grabbed in Dee or Frog's direction and their splattered giblets are everywhere, there is no way she can sell the story to Caramel64. She just goes "I tried to pull them away--" and then Caramel64 would just pull her away. From this mortal coil. ROUND 3 At this point Bricklander can just shit herself. She can tuck her knees under her butt, and shit bricks. The hole she dug is too deep to climb out of at this point.

DistantPrelude38 November 1, 2024 at 5:26:54 AM
Noiseless, Rylee, or Clyde?: Noiseless
Jogeir Liljedahl or Jochen Hippel?: Jogeir Liljedahl | addicti.mod
Bricklander vs. HayBombYT. Which one wins?: HayBombYT on an open field. He wins.
Out of these, which would win? (Bricklander, SillyGirlKamilla, MLM3, Mlemy [Memmy], SiIvaTrasheurs, TimmyTurnersGrandDad, Alex Wumbo, Hintlord, IkaGunner, SillyGirlKamilla, Fluttershy, emmnyaa, or Tina the cyclops girl) : IkaGunner, during the | 2006 event

ROUND 1 The best Bricklander can do is claim she arrived on the scene just as the "ripper" responsible fled. It would have to be a VERY convincing argument that the killer teleported or something since outside of Bricklander's strength/laser beams there is no possible evidence of other powers or gear in use. Caramel64 might let her go in the moment, but if she so much as discovers anything that might even point at Bricklander-- circumstantial evidence with no follow-up, even pure coincidence, Bricklander's death is only being delayed. ROUND 1.5 Same as R1 but even more difficult, since Bricklander is the first thing Caramel64 will associate with all of this. ROUND 2 R1.5 on extreme hard mode. If Bricklander looks like she just threw a punch/grabbed in Dee or Frog's direction and their splattered giblets are everywhere, there is no way she can sell the story to Caramel64. She just goes "I tried to pull them away--" and then Caramel64 would just pull her away. From this mortal coil. ROUND 3 At this point Bricklander can just shit herself. She can tuck her knees under her butt, and shit bricks. The hole she dug is too deep to climb out of at this point.

DistantPrelude38 November 1, 2024 at 5:25:55 AM
Noiseless, Rylee, or Clyde?: Jogeir Liljedahl takes | the | cake
Bricklander vs. HayBombYT. Which one wins?: HayBombYT does win, on an open field
Out of these, which would win? (Bricklander, SillyGirlKamilla, MLM3, Mlemy [Memmy], SiIvaTrasheurs, TimmyTurnersGrandDad, Alex Wumbo, Hintlord, IkaGunner, SillyGirlKamilla, Fluttershy, emmnyaa, or Tina the cyclops girl) : IkaGunner | during the | 2006 event

ROUND 1 The best Bricklander can do is claim she arrived on the scene just as the "ripper" responsible fled. It would have to be a VERY convincing argument that the killer teleported or something since outside of Bricklander's strength/laser beams there is no possible evidence of other powers or gear in use. Caramel64 might let her go in the moment, but if she so much as discovers anything that might even point at Bricklander-- circumstantial evidence with no follow-up, even pure coincidence, Bricklander's death is only being delayed. ROUND 1.5 Same as R1 but even more difficult, since Bricklander is the first thing Caramel64 will associate with all of this. ROUND 2 R1.5 on extreme hard mode. If Bricklander looks like she just threw a punch/grabbed in Dee or Frog's direction and their splattered giblets are everywhere, there is no way she can sell the story to Caramel64. She just goes "I tried to pull them away--" and then Caramel64 would just pull her away. From this mortal coil. ROUND 3 At this point Bricklander can just shit herself. She can tuck her knees under her butt, and shit bricks. The hole she dug is too deep to climb out of at this point.

DistantPrelude38 November 1, 2024 at 5:20:52 AM
Noiseless, Rylee, or Clyde?: Noiseless
Jogeir Liljedahl or Jochen Hippel?: Jogeir Liljedahl | takes the | cake
Bricklander vs. HayBombYT. Which one wins?: HayBombYT wins, on an open field
Out of these, which would win? (Bricklander, SillyGirlKamilla, MLM3, Mlemy [Memmy], SiIvaTrasheurs, TimmyTurnersGrandDad, Alex Wumbo, Hintlord, IkaGunner, SillyGirlKamilla, Fluttershy, emmnyaa, or Tina the cyclops girl) : IkaGunner during the | 2006 event

ROUND 1 The best Bricklander can do is claim she arrived on the scene just as the "ripper" responsible fled. It would have to be a VERY convincing argument that the killer teleported or something since outside of Bricklander's strength/laser beams there is no possible evidence of other powers or gear in use. Caramel64 might let her go in the moment, but if she so much as discovers anything that might even point at Bricklander-- circumstantial evidence with no follow-up, even pure coincidence, Bricklander's death is only being delayed. ROUND 1.5 Same as R1 but even more difficult, since Bricklander is the first thing Caramel64 will associate with all of this. ROUND 2 R1.5 on extreme hard mode. If Bricklander looks like she just threw a punch/grabbed in Dee or Frog's direction and their splattered giblets are everywhere, there is no way she can sell the story to Caramel64. She just goes "I tried to pull them away--" and then Caramel64 would just pull her away. From this mortal coil. ROUND 3 At this point Bricklander can just shit herself. She can tuck her knees under her butt, and shit bricks. The hole she dug is too deep to climb out of at this point.

DistantPrelude38 November 1, 2024 at 5:19:47 AM
Noiseless, Rylee, or Clyde?: Noiseless
Jogeir Liljedahl or Jochen Hippel?: Jogeir Liljedahl | takes | the cake
Bricklander vs. HayBombYT. Which one wins?: HayBombYT, on an open field
Out of these, which would win? (Bricklander, SillyGirlKamilla, MLM3, Mlemy [Memmy], SiIvaTrasheurs, TimmyTurnersGrandDad, Alex Wumbo, Hintlord, IkaGunner, SillyGirlKamilla, Fluttershy, emmnyaa, or Tina the cyclops girl) : IkaGunner during | the 2006 event

ROUND 1 The best Bricklander can do is claim she arrived on the scene just as the "ripper" responsible fled. It would have to be a VERY convincing argument that the killer teleported or something since outside of Bricklander's strength/laser beams there is no possible evidence of other powers or gear in use. Caramel64 might let her go in the moment, but if she so much as discovers anything that might even point at Bricklander-- circumstantial evidence with no follow-up, even pure coincidence, Bricklander's death is only being delayed. ROUND 1.5 Same as R1 but even more difficult, since Bricklander is the first thing Caramel64 will associate with all of this. ROUND 2 R1.5 on extreme hard mode. If Bricklander looks like she just threw a punch/grabbed in Dee or Frog's direction and their splattered giblets are everywhere, there is no way she can sell the story to Caramel64. She just goes "I tried to pull them away--" and then Caramel64 would just pull her away. From this mortal coil. ROUND 3 At this point Bricklander can just shit herself. She can tuck her knees under her butt, and shit bricks. The hole she dug is too deep to climb out of at this point.

DistantPrelude38 November 1, 2024 at 5:17:33 AM
Noiseless, Rylee, or Clyde?: Noiseless
Jogeir Liljedahl or Jochen Hippel?: Jogeir Liljedahl | takes the | cake
Bricklander vs. HayBombYT. Which one wins?: HayBombYT on an open field
Out of these, which would win? (Bricklander, SillyGirlKamilla, MLM3, Mlemy [Memmy], SiIvaTrasheurs, TimmyTurnersGrandDad, Alex Wumbo, Hintlord, IkaGunner, SillyGirlKamilla, Fluttershy, emmnyaa, or Tina the cyclops girl) : IkaGunner | during the 2006 event

ROUND 1 The best Bricklander can do is claim she arrived on the scene just as the "ripper" responsible fled. It would have to be a VERY convincing argument that the killer teleported or something since outside of Bricklander's strength/laser beams there is no possible evidence of other powers or gear in use. Caramel64 might let her go in the moment, but if she so much as discovers anything that might even point at Bricklander-- circumstantial evidence with no follow-up, even pure coincidence, Bricklander's death is only being delayed. ROUND 1.5 Same as R1 but even more difficult, since Bricklander is the first thing Caramel64 will associate with all of this. ROUND 2 R1.5 on extreme hard mode. If Bricklander looks like she just threw a punch/grabbed in Dee or Frog's direction and their splattered giblets are everywhere, there is no way she can sell the story to Caramel64. She just goes "I tried to pull them away--" and then Caramel64 would just pull her away. From this mortal coil. ROUND 3 At this point Bricklander can just shit herself. She can tuck her knees under her butt, and shit bricks. The hole she dug is too deep to climb out of at this point.

DistantPrelude38 November 1, 2024 at 5:16:30 AM
Noiseless, Rylee, or Clyde?: Noiseless
Jogeir Liljedahl or Jochen Hippel?: Jogeir Liljedahl | simply takes the cake
Bricklander vs. HayBombYT. Which one wins?: HayBombYT. He wins easily.
Out of these, which would win? (Bricklander, SillyGirlKamilla, MLM3, Mlemy [Memmy], SiIvaTrasheurs, TimmyTurnersGrandDad, Alex Wumbo, Hintlord, IkaGunner, SillyGirlKamilla, Fluttershy, emmnyaa, or Tina the cyclops girl) : IkaGunner | bandcamp

ROUND 1 The best Bricklander can do is claim she arrived on the scene just as the "ripper" responsible fled. It would have to be a VERY convincing argument that the killer teleported or something since outside of Bricklander's strength/laser beams there is no possible evidence of other powers or gear in use. Caramel64 might let her go in the moment, but if she so much as discovers anything that might even point at Bricklander-- circumstantial evidence with no follow-up, even pure coincidence, Bricklander's death is only being delayed. ROUND 1.5 Same as R1 but even more difficult, since Bricklander is the first thing Caramel64 will associate with all of this. ROUND 2 R1.5 on extreme hard mode. If Bricklander looks like she just threw a punch/grabbed in Dee or Frog's direction and their splattered giblets are everywhere, there is no way she can sell the story to Caramel64. She just goes "I tried to pull them away--" and then Caramel64 would just pull her away. From this mortal coil. ROUND 3 At this point Bricklander can just shit herself. She can tuck her knees under her butt, and shit bricks. The hole she dug is too deep to climb out of at this point.

DistantPrelude38 November 1, 2024 at 5:14:41 AM
Noiseless, Rylee, or Clyde?: Noiseless
Jogeir Liljedahl or Jochen Hippel?: Jogeir Liljedahl simply | takes the cake
Bricklander vs. HayBombYT. Which one wins?: HayBombYT. He easily wins.
Out of these, which would win? (Bricklander, SillyGirlKamilla, MLM3, Mlemy [Memmy], SiIvaTrasheurs, TimmyTurnersGrandDad, Alex Wumbo, Hintlord, IkaGunner, SillyGirlKamilla, Fluttershy, emmnyaa, or Tina the cyclops girl) : SillyGirlKamilla | (the 2006 Event)

ROUND 1 The best Bricklander can do is claim she arrived on the scene just as the "ripper" responsible fled. It would have to be a VERY convincing argument that the killer teleported or something since outside of Bricklander's strength/laser beams there is no possible evidence of other powers or gear in use. Caramel64 might let her go in the moment, but if she so much as discovers anything that might even point at Bricklander-- circumstantial evidence with no follow-up, even pure coincidence, Bricklander's death is only being delayed. ROUND 1.5 Same as R1 but even more difficult, since Bricklander is the first thing Caramel64 will associate with all of this. ROUND 2 R1.5 on extreme hard mode. If Bricklander looks like she just threw a punch/grabbed in Dee or Frog's direction and their splattered giblets are everywhere, there is no way she can sell the story to Caramel64. She just goes "I tried to pull them away--" and then Caramel64 would just pull her away. From this mortal coil. ROUND 3 At this point Bricklander can just shit herself. She can tuck her knees under her butt, and shit bricks. The hole she dug is too deep to climb out of at this point.

DistantPrelude38 November 1, 2024 at 5:13:17 AM
Noiseless, Rylee, or Clyde?: Noiseless
Jogeir Liljedahl or Jochen Hippel?: Jogeir Liljedahl | ambrozia
Bricklander vs. HayBombYT. Which one wins?: HayBombYT wins in an open area
Out of these, which would win? (Bricklander, SillyGirlKamilla, MLM3, Mlemy [Memmy], SiIvaTrasheurs, TimmyTurnersGrandDad, Alex Wumbo, Hintlord, IkaGunner, SillyGirlKamilla, Fluttershy, emmnyaa, or Tina the cyclops girl) : Tina the cyclops girl wins

ROUND 1 The best Bricklander can do is claim she arrived on the scene just as the "ripper" responsible fled. It would have to be a VERY convincing argument that the killer teleported or something since outside of Bricklander's strength/laser beams there is no possible evidence of other powers or gear in use. Caramel64 might let her go in the moment, but if she so much as discovers anything that might even point at Bricklander-- circumstantial evidence with no follow-up, even pure coincidence, Bricklander's death is only being delayed. ROUND 1.5 Same as R1 but even more difficult, since Bricklander is the first thing Caramel64 will associate with all of this. ROUND 2 R1.5 on extreme hard mode. If Bricklander looks like she just threw a punch/grabbed in Dee or Frog's direction and their splattered giblets are everywhere, there is no way she can sell the story to Caramel64. She just goes "I tried to pull them away--" and then Caramel64 would just pull her away. From this mortal coil. ROUND 3 At this point Bricklander can just shit herself. She can tuck her knees under her butt, and shit bricks. The hole she dug is too deep to climb out of at this point.

DistantPrelude38 November 1, 2024 at 5:03:51 AM
Noiseless, Rylee, or Clyde?: Noiseless
Jogeir Liljedahl or Jochen Hippel?: Jogeir Liljedahl | but not Jochen Hippel
Bricklander vs. HayBombYT. Which one wins?: HayBombYT in an open area
Out of these, which would win? (Bricklander, SillyGirlKamilla, MLM3, Mlemy [Memmy], SiIvaTrasheurs, TimmyTurnersGrandDad, Alex Wumbo, Hintlord, IkaGunner, SillyGirlKamilla, Fluttershy, emmnyaa, or Tina the cyclops girl) : SillyGirlKamilla vs. Memmy

ROUND 1 The best Bricklander can do is claim she arrived on the scene just as the "ripper" responsible fled. It would have to be a VERY convincing argument that the killer teleported or something since outside of Bricklander's strength/laser beams there is no possible evidence of other powers or gear in use. Caramel64 might let her go in the moment, but if she so much as discovers anything that might even point at Bricklander-- circumstantial evidence with no follow-up, even pure coincidence, Bricklander's death is only being delayed. ROUND 1.5 Same as R1 but even more difficult, since Bricklander is the first thing Caramel64 will associate with all of this. ROUND 2 R1.5 on extreme hard mode. If Bricklander looks like she just threw a punch/grabbed in Dee or Frog's direction and their splattered giblets are everywhere, there is no way she can sell the story to Caramel64. She just goes "I tried to pull them away--" and then Caramel64 would just pull her away. From this mortal coil. ROUND 3 At this point Bricklander can just shit herself. She can tuck her knees under her butt, and shit bricks. The hole she dug is too deep to climb out of at this point.

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